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Topic created : 13.06.2010, 14:36

Last time edited : 10.12.2015, 00:12
noglues5
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Common info
 
If the player qualification is fully utilized, qualification growth will be faster.
 
That is the ideal growth factor - when the company is working with 100% efficiency and full usage of a top manager capacity. However, there are the following additional factors to effect qualification growth:
 
management's growth is additionally evaluated by paid taxes of the company
 
commerce's growth is additionally evaluated by profit (paid taxes) of stores.
 
production's, mining and animal husbandry growth is evaluated by the quality of produced goods. Ideally, the company must produce high quality goods. At high levels of qualification, output quality should be equal to the average quality of the realm. For lower levels of qualification it can be lower.
 
Optimal growth of science is evaluated by the amount of technology inventions in the previous 15 turns and the sale of technology (not license) in the previous 15 turns.
 
agricultural growth has no additional factors;  growth only happens during the harvest season.
 
marketing's growth is evaluated by volume of advertising. Single volumes of advertising and / or the total amount of advertising must comply with the current level of player.
 
The ideal load - this is when top1 and top3 are utilized to the maximum.
~~~
 
What is top1, top2,  top3?
 
To run a subdivision with full efficiency, a suitable Top Manager qualification (Q) is required. A players qualification grows every day, according to a summary of factors from all subdivisions of the respective Q. One indicator is 100% efficiency at every subdivision, but there are other "invisible" factors which effect Q growth. Those are Top1, top2 and top3.
 
When the new qualifications system was introduced, those invisible factors Top1-3 were displayed at each subdivision for a while in a special window which looked like this:
 

 
Top1 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the current settings (current staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top2 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the required settings (required staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top3 - total number of staff for the whole company
~~~
 
How to achive growth from this table?
 
It's very simple - you must load your top manager at each unit and throughout the company.
Ie if the load is ideal, then the hiring of another employee, reduced eff. all units of the industry. If we increase the qualifications of personnel that eff. also decreases (only in this unit)
Conventionally, it can be represented as:
 

 
Note: You can artificially increase the qualification of staff, to the maximize load of top1
 
Is there a caveat - top1 and top3 can compensate for each other. For example, in this case, eff. will be 100%, although top1 overloaded (because top3 underloaded):
 

 
But, growth may will not be perfect (due to lack of load on top3)
 
Note: Overloading of top-manager are not recommended - reduce growth due to low eff. will be stronger than in case of low load.
Note: Easy way to maximize load on top1 - set the total number of staff to the values from this table, and then at each enterprise increases the qualification until total efficiency  starts falling
~~~
 
Bonuses from awards have influence to the growth?
 
Yes and noWell
For growth takes value of native top, but if the load exceeds its capacity, the bonuses help to avoid reducing the efficiency, and consequently - reducing the growth will not:
 

 
~~~
 
Which is better - a large subdivision, or lots of little ones?
 
For growth of top manager - no difference.
 
Example:
Qualifications of a top manager in the production = 7.
 
Situation 1: two units at 3500 workplaces (personnel qualification - 2)
Situation 2: 10 units at 700 workplaces (personnel qualification - 6,78)
 
In both cases, the load on top1 (for each unit) and top3 (the entire company) is the same.
 
In the former case, less salary costs and stress of the office. In the second case - have the opportunity to put more high tech, but the load on the office are much higher.
~~~
 
How additional factors affect the growth?
 
Only downward. Ie if your top1 and top3 not loaded, then additional factors will not be able to compensate for the low load.
 
Approximate calculation of growth is as follows:
1. Determine the base growth  (depending on workload top1 and top3)
2. If eff. unit is less 100%, then the base is reduced.
3. Multiplied by a coefficient of additional factors (eg, for managment and commerce can be reduced to 10 times) In best case coefficient = 1 (not reduces)
~~~
 
How do I know how perfect growing my skills?
 
Install this script (originally by test01; adapted for Chrome by Ixnad)
How to install user script
~~~
 
Special thanks to Mike1Well
   

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4.10.2014, 11:42.     Subject: Services and restaurants
RGBooks
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Can anyone work out the qualification needed for services and restaurants? 
 

4.10.2014, 12:53

Last time edited : 4.10.2014, 12:54
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RGBooks
Can anyone work out the qualification needed for services and restaurants?

Until then, Restaurants use the same one than Stores. Medical centers use the same ones than for Fishing. And Services are a 50% higher than Offices. 
 

26.10.2014, 15:48
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Hey guys could anybody send me the xions script ? Because the website that hosts it appears to be down Not so my email is rgxbox@outlook.com ...  
 

26.10.2014, 19:40
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Sure it's down?
https://greasyfork.org/scripts/2039-xioscript ...  
 

25.02.2015, 19:27
Berill
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Berill Corp.
 
Hi everyone.
 
Need some help in understanding.
 
Qualification in Production = 33(native) + 5 (bonus)
 
Let's take my plant with Technology T= 20.
 
In that plant working only 375 employees with qualification 10.99 (equipment quantity 1500(max 12k), quality = 35.13)
 
According to the Top1's tables in this topic, I can hold 5k employees with 100% efficiency. I have only 375 of them.
 
Staff effeciency = 100%
Office effeciency = 100%
 
Total number of employees on profile qualification = 71543 (TOP3). According to tables in topic max = 155800 (Q = 38)
 
Top manager effenciency = 89.10%. Why? Can hold 5k on top manager qualification = 38, using just 375 and effenciency NOT 100%?
 
PS. If anybody can also explain me on russian, it would very good. 
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Sorry for my english if it is not good.
 

25.02.2015, 20:27

Last time edited : 25.02.2015, 20:30
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Tech-20 is too much for top manager Q=38)
TOP manager qualification = 38 ---> Maximum Technology he can handle = 18
 
Aside from those restrictions suggested by TOP-1 and TOP-3 charts, there is another restriction on tech level a manager can handle. You can find it in the first chart of this post, just expand it to see the chart. This chart stands for all qualifications not only production. in example:
PRODUCTION QUALIFICATION = 9  ---> MAX TECHNOLOGY = 11
SCIENCE QUALIFICATION = 100 ---> MAX TECHNOLOGY (TO BE RESEARCHED) = 25
of course we can exceed the limits but efficiency will drop.
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Sorry I don't know Russian. 
 

26.02.2015, 03:08

Last time edited : 26.02.2015, 03:10
Berill
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Wonson
Tech-20 is too much for top manager Q=38)
TOP manager qualification = 38 ---> Maximum Technology he can handle = 18
 
Aside from those restrictions suggested by TOP-1 and TOP-3 charts, there is another restriction on tech level a manager can handle. You can find it in the first chart of this post, just expand it to see the chart. This chart stands for all qualifications not only production. in example:
PRODUCTION QUALIFICATION = 9  ---> MAX TECHNOLOGY = 11
SCIENCE QUALIFICATION = 100 ---> MAX TECHNOLOGY (TO BE RESEARCHED) = 25
of course we can exceed the limits but efficiency will drop.
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Sorry I don't know Russian.

Thanks for answer.
In first table, as you said, the max technology for me in production is 18. I have several plants with 19th technology and their effeciency is 100%. According table I must have 44 points in production qualification. But I have just 38. In this point I don't know what think =)) 
 

27.02.2015, 02:18

Last time edited : 28.03.2015, 13:26
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Berill

I have several plants with 19th technology and their effeciency is 100%. According table I must have 44 points in production qualification. But I have just 38. In this point I don't know what think =))

use of 1 level higher Tech is possible and will get you 100% efficiency but the "minimum requirement" green text info disappears
 
Edit: this works well on my agricultural farms but i was told recently that it doesn't work if your Top1 and Top3 is maxed out. 
 

27.02.2015, 02:21
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Top 3 for " Gas stations and auto repair": 0.5 of Stores/Labs 
 

28.02.2015, 02:52
Berill
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Mike1
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I have several plants with 19th technology and their effeciency is 100%. According table I must have 44 points in production qualification. But I have just 38. In this point I don't know what think =))

use of 1 level higher Tech is possible and will get you 100% efficiency but the "minimum requirement" green text info disappears
Thank you for answer. 
 

23.03.2015, 15:07.     Subject: Stores
edvinasignas
 
Hello, in first page there are tables of qualification/number of empleyees/top manager qual.
 
But it doesn't show a picture table of shops / stores. Could anyone repost it or fix it? Thanks! 
 

26.03.2015, 20:42

Last time edited : 26.03.2015, 20:43
jeka_igla
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This is a very old topic, for more accurate information use script
 
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/2039-xioscript ...
 
It'll show all number you need to improve your qualification as fast as u can
 
If u need a table look there:
http://calc.atlantis-corp.ru/top3.php ...
 
Just use google translator to translate top of the page
Прирост - is max possible grow. 0.674 means +67.4%
 
This thing
Торговля,
Исследования
и
Ресторанное дело
Is max numbers for stores 
 

27.03.2015, 17:11
NobodyAtAll
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Is the "maximum amount of employees with this employee qualification" listed by the script the max needed for optimal top manager growth? It is very clearly not the actual maximum, nor particularly near it.
 
For instance, the script claims the maximum number of employees at one of my stores is 430, but the actual number is 620. At one of my factories it claims 2765, but the real number is 3982. In both cases the true maximum is about 44% higher than the displayed maximum.
 
I've modified my local copy of the script to display both the old reported maximum (presumably the maximum for growth) and the true maximum (what you can actually have at 100% efficiency). 
 

27.03.2015, 19:39

Last time edited : 27.03.2015, 19:41
Pyrex
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@NobodyAtAll
 
You can go above the top 3 maximum if you don't max the top 1 maximum and vice-versa. If both are above max, you'll get less than 100% efficiency for sure.
 
The script has the formula to calculate the expected efficiency and it is very precise. A good add to the script could be the "real maximum employees you can have with this qualification" that would show you the maximum employees you can have with the current qualification and top 3 utilization and still keep 100% efficiency. 
 

27.03.2015, 19:45
NobodyAtAll
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The formula for the max top 1 does not include any top 3 details in the calculation. As I mentioned, I did modify the script (locally) to make this calculation. 
 

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