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Topic created : 13.06.2010, 14:36

Last time edited : 10.12.2015, 00:12

noglues5
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Common info
 
If the player qualification is fully utilized, qualification growth will be faster.
 
That is the ideal growth factor - when the company is working with 100% efficiency and full usage of a top manager capacity. However, there are the following additional factors to effect qualification growth:
 
management's growth is additionally evaluated by paid taxes of the company
 
commerce's growth is additionally evaluated by profit (paid taxes) of stores.
 
production's, mining and animal husbandry growth is evaluated by the quality of produced goods. Ideally, the company must produce high quality goods. At high levels of qualification, output quality should be equal to the average quality of the realm. For lower levels of qualification it can be lower.
 
Optimal growth of science is evaluated by the amount of technology inventions in the previous 15 turns and the sale of technology (not license) in the previous 15 turns.
 
agricultural growth has no additional factors;  growth only happens during the harvest season.
 
marketing's growth is evaluated by volume of advertising. Single volumes of advertising and / or the total amount of advertising must comply with the current level of player.
 
The ideal load - this is when top1 and top3 are utilized to the maximum.
~~~
 
What is top1, top2,  top3?
 
To run a subdivision with full efficiency, a suitable Top Manager qualification (Q) is required. A players qualification grows every day, according to a summary of factors from all subdivisions of the respective Q. One indicator is 100% efficiency at every subdivision, but there are other "invisible" factors which effect Q growth. Those are Top1, top2 and top3.
 
When the new qualifications system was introduced, those invisible factors Top1-3 were displayed at each subdivision for a while in a special window which looked like this:
 

 
Top1 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the current settings (current staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top2 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the required settings (required staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top3 - total number of staff for the whole company
~~~
 
How to achive growth from this table?
 
It's very simple - you must load your top manager at each unit and throughout the company.
Ie if the load is ideal, then the hiring of another employee, reduced eff. all units of the industry. If we increase the qualifications of personnel that eff. also decreases (only in this unit)
Conventionally, it can be represented as:
 

 
Note: You can artificially increase the qualification of staff, to the maximize load of top1
 
Is there a caveat - top1 and top3 can compensate for each other. For example, in this case, eff. will be 100%, although top1 overloaded (because top3 underloaded):
 

 
But, growth may will not be perfect (due to lack of load on top3)
 
Note: Overloading of top-manager are not recommended - reduce growth due to low eff. will be stronger than in case of low load.
Note: Easy way to maximize load on top1 - set the total number of staff to the values from this table, and then at each enterprise increases the qualification until total efficiency  starts falling
~~~
 
Bonuses from awards have influence to the growth?
 
Yes and noWell
For growth takes value of native top, but if the load exceeds its capacity, the bonuses help to avoid reducing the efficiency, and consequently - reducing the growth will not:
 

 
~~~
 
Which is better - a large subdivision, or lots of little ones?
 
For growth of top manager - no difference.
 
Example:
Qualifications of a top manager in the production = 7.
 
Situation 1: two units at 3500 workplaces (personnel qualification - 2)
Situation 2: 10 units at 700 workplaces (personnel qualification - 6,78)
 
In both cases, the load on top1 (for each unit) and top3 (the entire company) is the same.
 
In the former case, less salary costs and stress of the office. In the second case - have the opportunity to put more high tech, but the load on the office are much higher.
~~~
 
How additional factors affect the growth?
 
Only downward. Ie if your top1 and top3 not loaded, then additional factors will not be able to compensate for the low load.
 
Approximate calculation of growth is as follows:
1. Determine the base growth  (depending on workload top1 and top3)
2. If eff. unit is less 100%, then the base is reduced.
3. Multiplied by a coefficient of additional factors (eg, for managment and commerce can be reduced to 10 times) In best case coefficient = 1 (not reduces)
~~~
 
How do I know how perfect growing my skills?
 
Install this script (originally by test01; adapted for Chrome by Ixnad)
How to install user script
~~~
 
Special thanks to Mike1Well
   

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15.04.2011, 17:18

noglues5
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turkbostjan
well that thread was deleted accidentaly and we are waiting if admins will be able to undelete that stuff.
Afraid that it's impossibleNot so
Top1 info 
 

8.05.2011, 02:49

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Hey guys, I have a little problem.
 
If I have a lvl 10 on Tech and I have 1200 workers (1300 is the max for this level). Every Lab is optimized to maximize qualification growth. Then I want to put up a lab with 30 workers @ Q3 to raise my Top3-load to 1230 workers. This is less than my top1 would allow (30 workers @Q10,99). Will this actually slow up my qualification growth? 
 

8.05.2011, 21:15

Arvense
 
Your qualification growth won't be slowed.
Your TOP 1 in the extra lab is loaded since you have full employment at this unit. As far as I can tell worker qualification is not an issue in this case.
TOP 3 is loaded a little higher, which is good to achieve faster growth. 
 

15.05.2011, 12:57

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Thanks for the reply. So this means that I should always try to maximize Top3 load, even though I couldn't even nearly meet the Top1 requirements of the additional subdivisions? 
 

17.05.2011, 00:11

Arvense
 
Indeed. 
 

23.06.2011, 11:47.     Subject: a little confused...

MoridinUK
 
i understand the top3 tables, this is equal to the total number of employees required for each type of sub division by the my qualification level.
 
ie lvl 1 managment = 8 office employees.
 
but that is the number in the top1 tables?  I can find my qualification across the top but is the quantity employees or subdivisions and what is the number in each box?
 
I think it is qualification along the top, employees down the side  and the number of sub divisions in the boxes?
 
thanks for the clarification! 
 

23.06.2011, 12:41

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23.06.2011, 21:39

Last time edited : 23.06.2011, 21:39

MoridinUK
 
Does that make sense?  tO have qualification along the top and then qualification in the boxes?
 
Take animals, if you have 100 employees you need qualification 3, but if you have qualification three, you suddenly need qualification 4??
 
and why is knowing what qualification I need, helpful in maximising growth?
 
I really want to understand this thread but I simply don't....
 
Please someone explain what all this means?
 
I have level 1 in animals so please tell me how does the animals top3 table help me know how many animals employees I need max top3.
 
I have level 2 in management and production and so I've no idea how many employees i need to max my growth..
 
Please help, 
 

23.06.2011, 21:49

Last time edited : 23.06.2011, 22:11

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MoridinUK
Does that make sense?  tO have qualification along the top and then qualification in the boxes?
 
Take animals, if you have 100 employees you need qualification 3, but if you have qualification three, you suddenly need qualification 4??

These are two different qualificationsWell The first one (along the top) is employee's qualification at your factory/store/etc, while the second one refers to the top manager qualification (follow the Mike's link above).
 
Considering your example:
 
you have (at one farm) 100 employees of qualification 3. The required top manager qualification to manage this number of employees of such qualification at 100% efficiency is 4.
 
MoridinUK
and why is knowing what qualification I need, helpful in maximising growth?

To maximize the top growth you need to load it at 100% from both sides top1 and top3. These tables help you to solve the problem.
 
MoridinUK
I have level 2 in management and production and so I've no idea how many employees i need to max my growth..

Lets consider your production qualification. So...
 
1. Look at top3 table and find max number of employees for the 2nd qualification there. 1000. Got it!
2. Look at the top1 table for factories. Find #2 in the middle of the table. There are lots of them so all these options are possible, but don't forget about top3 limit in 1000 employees.
 
E.g. you can handle 5 factories 200 employees of qualification 3 each. 
 

23.06.2011, 22:24

Last time edited : 23.06.2011, 22:25

MoridinUK
 
ahh i see...
 
Sorry some tables had two levels along the top!
 
Ok thanks! that makes sense now! 
 

23.06.2011, 22:51

VLLord
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MoridinUK
ahh i see...
 
Sorry some tables had two levels along the top!
 
Ok thanks! that makes sense now!

Two levels mean the following:
the upper one is technology level (used where it's possible)
and the bottom one is employees qualification 
 

26.06.2011, 13:36

ShoppyT
 
How are mills calculated? What table to use?! 
 

26.06.2011, 13:59

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ShoppyT
How are mills calculated? What table to use?!

Mills refer to the production qualification, so use the table for factories.
But! the top load provided by millers is more essential than the workers' one, so  count 1 miller as 10 factory workers.
 
E.g. for top3 table:
 
for 15 millers find 150 workers in the table.
 
E.g. for top1 table:
 
for 15 milllers Q5 find 150 workers Q5. 
 

22.07.2011, 11:33

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I'm in process to max my production growth rate.
 
I've 34,5 production qualification ,if i understood the tables that means :
 
TOP3
 
Number of employees must be around 129k for all my factories (125k for 34 qualification 133k for for 35 qualification)
 
TOP 1
 
For 5000 factories : 5000 employees with 10,30 qualification (between 10,10 and 10,55)
For 10000 factoris : 10000 employees with 8,50 (between 8,26 and 8,73)
 
The question is : are those number related to factory tecnology? i mean is it the same in term of top1 for :
factory 1 : tech :10 emp :5000 qual : 10,30
factory 2 : tech :15 emp :5000 qual : 10,30
 
I can adjust the number a little bit i can't reach th exact number (i.e. 135k total employees and some factories with around 9 in qualification instead of 10,30. Is it correct or i'm missing something? 
 

2.08.2011, 08:14

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Hello, is there any direct relationship between management qualification and number of workers in controlled subdivisions?
 
After reading this topic I see it is much more complex than that, and I would like to confirm:
 
Is the "100 workers in controlled subdivisions per level of management skill" rule wrong?
 
For example if my management level is 4 shall I limit to 400 workers max. in controlled subdivisions?
 

Also, from my small experience on this game I can say the following.
 
1. The number (and size) of subdivisions impact on the number of required office workers.
 
2. The number (and maybe qualification?) of workers in controlled subdivisions impact on the level of administrative load.
 
3. The number and size of advertisements impact on the level of administrative load.

 
Can anyone confirm this?
 
Thank you very much, and have a nice day! 
 

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