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We have decided to dedicate Summer 2012 to politics. The sphere we are all undoubtedly good at. The one that influences your life even if you don't actively participate in it. The one that is believed to be the great art of compromise.
 
The political life of Virtonomics will begin with the introduction of Political parties and mayors.
 
The launch is planned for mid August. Here are some details about what's coming.
 
I. Political parties
 
The political life is mainly centered around parties, which are analogues to corporations (creation, joining, etc.). The purpose of political parties is to fund political campaigns and nominate candidates for elective offices of the Virtonomics government.
 
Each political party can choose its political platform . Political platform in Virtonomics is a kind of a "specialization" of the party which determines its internal policy of the distribution of costs and income, gives certain bonuses, imposes certain restrictions.
 
There is a popularity ranking for parties in each Virtonomics city where they are represented (villa). The ranking depends on the costs of political campaign of the party.
 
II. Mayors
 
The cities will be administrated by the elected mayors nominated by political parties.
 
Voting includes votes by members of parties and votes by citizens and lasts 2 days (we are thinking of making these 2 days regularly fall to Sunday-Monday) The votes of the parties are taken into account in proportion to the level of influence the parties have in the cities; the votes of private persons are taken into account in proportion to the income of their stores and enterprises of the services sector on the day of summing up the results.
 
After the elections the winner officially assumes the office for a term of 3 Virtonomics years. There is no limit to the allowed number of terms. You can be a mayor of several cities at once Yes There will be impeachments Well
 
Each city will have its own budget, which is going to be the mayor's responsibility (both: administrative and financial).
 
Income of the city budget includes:

  • rent from premises;
  • part of the companies' costs for building and modernization;
  • assignments from regional budget;
  • municipal taxes and charges;
  • mayor's private assets (if the overall income is not enough to cover all the expenses)

Expenses:

  • unemployment benefits;
  • office employees' salaries;
  • pensions, scholarships and other social payments;
  • educational programs;
  • Costs of city improvement and the maintenance of public order;
  • one-time municipal projects;
  • sponsorship from a mayor and/or his/her political party in case of city budget surplus.

A mayor can execute the following operations:
 
1. Change lease price per one square meter of office, commercial, storage, etc. premises;
2. Regulate tax rates and charges on municipal level;
3. Regulate the percentage of sponsorship payments of the political party;
4. Initiate major municipal projects - the sweetest part of the mayor’s rights which allows to change global characteristics of the cities: education and salary levels, population numbers, scientific breakthroughs of the city, etc.
5. Block for one turn the functioning of almost any kind of city enterprises. In this case the blocked enterprise will be in a vacation mode during an update.
 
III. Future
 
These are large-scale changes, which, however, don’t cover the whole possible political spectrum of Virtonomics. After the launch we’ll be gathering statistical data and your feedback, which will help us to decide how to further develop this sector or whether to develop it at all. For now, we see three possible options:
 
1. Organizing the chain of command: from mayors to regional governors, from governors to country presidents.
 
2. New opportunities for the mayors. For example, they can develop certain product lines, etc. in order to be able to better regulate the retail commerce in the city.
 
3. Better detailed model of the world. «Ecology level», «appeal for the tourists», etc. — these are the things that could make the game more interesting, and enhance the job of the mayors.   

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31.07.2012, 17:44

Last time edited : 1.08.2012, 00:05
myklo
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#5. Block for one turn the functioning of almost any kind of city enterprises. In this case the blocked enterprise will be in a vacation mode during an update. - This concerns me greatly,way too much power for a Mayor.
It appears to be set-up to mirror `Russian style`politics.Not so 
 

31.07.2012, 19:22

Last time edited : 31.07.2012, 19:26
Melchior2008
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The ability of blocking everything is a bit scary for companies. Also, the ability to change tax rates, lease price, etc... Will there be an upper limit for taxes or just 100% ?
 
5 Virtonomics year for a mayor seems a bit too long. It's 260 real days. I think there should be a possibility to demote the mayor if he/she does things that don't match the will of the people/companies.
 
Will it be possible to bribe the mayor ? Ridiculously 
 

31.07.2012, 22:55
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simply a bad move... 
 

1.08.2012, 02:18

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1,2,4,5 Are all bad ideas... If you do this you might as well give the "mayor" a admin login to the server! if the wrong person gets in power everyone will simply close up shop in the country. I know i will i might have 35 billion in assets, but by no means am i going to lose it all because of this... I will just simply sit back wait till dozens of people go bankrupt and buy their factories ship it out of the country and sell it off.
 
If your going to do it like this then make it so if they mess up the whole country and make it go into a USA kinda debt make them pay for it... So if they throw the country into a 50 billion debt and their company is worth 50 bill they are automatically forced bankrupt (no choice no 9 days nothing. Do not pass GO, go directly to bankruptcy.) and all assets sold off to pay off the debt.
 
If you do not either limit the amount of change per # of weeks months etc or what i said above you will quickly see this game die and only the super rich in the game survive for about a month.
 
Please note i know nothing about Russian Politics but i do know how the usa got boned... and its by allowing some fool into office.
 
Edit: If we all give a -1 to original post will that stop this potentially bad update? 
 

1.08.2012, 02:46
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sorry guys, but I strongly disagree with the criticism here!
 
I think this is a funtastic new addition and dimension to this game. Yes, it has a big impact. Yes, it carries great risks. This is why things will be evaluated constantly. If there is any systematic abuse of power, I'm sure the games administrators will intervene.
 
The lease prices currently really don't have any impact on your bottom lines, so allowing them to move more into tune with your total budget is a good thing. Any mayor that exaggerates will lose companies to other cities.
 
Taxes: if they go too high, the companies will flee. This means unemployment goes up and this will be bad for many reasons.
 
Projects and balanced budgets: I got the impression that a mayor that wants to spend more than city income will do so from private funds.
 
Blocking companies: abuse it too much, and you lose companies (see "taxes" for the rest). I think it is wise to give the mayor some powers to handle citizens that abuse possible loopholes.
 
As for the duration of the term: I agree with Melchior that 260 real days is a bit much. A three month period would appear more reasonable to me. Either way, there will be ways to impeach the mayor (maybe on a monthly basis?).
 
One small piece of "criticism": I find it a bit weird that you can be mayor in more than 1 city. Could the mayor of Paris also be mayor of London? Could you be the mayor of Helsinki and at the same time arrange life in Conakry (Guinee)?
 
And just to motivate why I like this: the main reason is that it will be an extra motivation for the established players to stick around. To help newer players. To build strong relationships with other players. To continue to share their knowledge. 
 

1.08.2012, 04:23

Last time edited : 1.08.2012, 04:51
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Don't worry that much. If the Major dares to force-freeze your factories to take control of the market, you can always freeze all your factories there, fire all workers and watch his own enterprise pay the taxes for the cost of the 100% of the city maintenance, expenses and unemployment wages for all your former workers. Problem, major?
 

I would propose fines for those Majors who spend all the city cash and sink the city or country into bankrupt. (Percentage-based, to avoid "free" runaways for multimillionaires and Point buyers.) And yes, seizure of properties for useless majors too.
 
On the other side, a beloved Major who lowers taxes for helping enterprises to hire workers and being more productive, reducing custom duties to make the country more competitive in foreign market, improving education level... might be kicked out just because the opposition wants to. But if most of enterprises and investors are happy with him, he is very likely to remain there for a long time.
 
It's a double-edged sword anyway, but we should need more details about the exact power a major would have before making a deep-in criticism.
 
EDITED * Typo. 
 

2.08.2012, 02:17
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tell you the truth I really dont care what they do to the game really... as if they mess it up and never take a backup of it before implementing something/anything, I'll simply move on, laugh and never look back. 
 

7.08.2012, 12:24
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After consideration, we've decided not to give mayors the right to block enterprises. 
 

8.08.2012, 18:18

Last time edited : 8.08.2012, 18:25
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Depending on how those are worked out, the new functions will bring great pleasure to all players, or maybe just those who have most villas. Either way, looking forward to it positively and thanks Heart virtonomics team, to keep developing new stuff!
 
PS: how about removing that "Moderator" label below my nickname now since i am no longer a moderator. It feels .. politically incorrect So-so 
 

8.08.2012, 20:07
Melchior2008
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If you need to be nominated by a party to get elected, and if a party needs a villa in that city, and since villas are so far a paying feature, does it mean that non-paying players won't be able to be elected mayors ? Really? 
 

9.08.2012, 05:00
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Melchior2008
If you need to be nominated by a party to get elected, and if a party needs a villa in that city, and since villas are so far a paying feature, does it mean that non-paying players won't be able to be elected mayors ? Really?

Bingo. Unless you can buy the points with in-game cash, or winning several contests. 
 

9.08.2012, 11:28
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That would depend on the parties, wouldn't it? If party X wins the elections in town Y and they think that party member Z, who doesn't happen to have a villa, would make a good mayor, he can become a mayor, can't he?
 
I don't really expect much problems on Mary because it is so thinly populated. Unless, of course, there are players that want to spend a lot on becoming mayor in 20 cities. I sure hope this statement doesn't come back to haunt me Very we! 
 

9.08.2012, 17:15
Rogue_Cat
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JustNash
That would depend on the parties, wouldn't it? If party X wins the elections in town Y and they think that party member Z, who doesn't happen to have a villa, would make a good mayor, he can become a mayor, can't he?
 
I don't really expect much problems on Mary because it is so thinly populated. Unless, of course, there are players that want to spend a lot on becoming mayor in 20 cities. I sure hope this statement doesn't come back to haunt me Very we!

That reminds me of Monkey Island quote: To you
 
Monkey Island
Re-elect Governor Marley. "When there's only one candidate, there's only one choice."
 
 

10.08.2012, 00:17
Melchior2008
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And cities with no villa will they remain mayor-less ? 
 

10.08.2012, 04:24
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Melchior2008
And cities with no villa will they remain mayor-less ?

I suposse they will remain as they are right now, controlled by the "Artificial Intelligence" until a human player steps in to take the seat. 
 

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