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Topic created : 24.04.2014, 03:36
windps
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I understand the Usefulness of Tenders and it's a nice way to get bonuses and points. The Problem is on Mary is a lot harder to get rolling due to no resources and most things are overrun. It Seems to be good for well established players but hurts newer people....A LOT.
 
  That being said....I Am Building up a store for about 5 Game Months or so, I find a nice spot where no one is at. Then Two(has to be same person) Selling everything the same moves in and in one day Takes over the market because his high Q he can advertise WAY more and with little to no effort just take over. Hence most Of these "games" are hard to get anywhere because of the "Elites" That either just bought points, no matter the skill level or have been in the game so long No one can catch them.
 
Not sure how to build when you find a good spot, someone has a Tender and screws everything you did in one day to win a one point tender. I feel I did all the work so someone could just move in and make all the profit. Dirty Normal Business maybe but still not very classy to do and hard to grow without buying Points(maybe that's the point). Also very suspicious to have 2 diff people doing the same thing.....working together maybe for the tender.
 
  Basically my store is Trash now (was my best one) as I will never be able to compete for the little market it is. Of course this isn't the first time, and with more tenders in whatever region I am in will suffer the same fate. For Some reason I am still trying to make it on the realm.
 
 I don't Really understand why the maps are so incomplete, no USA or the West except Cuba and Ven. Maybe with more open space newer players could build up.   

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28.04.2014, 14:39

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XiozZe

 
That the reason we don't like you boy. Very we!

I know.. hard labor is seldom appreciated Tears
 
XiozZe

Wait a couple of months, when I got by tenders scripted, you will have to work for your virts while I'm just pressing a self-made button once a day. So-so

Does that mean you are feeling too popular now? To you 
 

28.04.2014, 15:38

Last time edited : 28.04.2014, 15:46
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windps
One thing that really confuses me is I get advertisement for max population I have 65% of a small market share and someone comes in the first day of a store, gets 1 mil customers(not even 1 mil in the city), doubles my popular score and Steals 15% on the SAME exact Q/B. Mine was actually 1 cent lower. This is not a tender run btw, no tenders for these items or overall sales. Tired of getting run over and I don't understand how people can steal just like that.
 
I find a spot where no one is at and they come swooping in to steal everything when I get a good thing going. It would seem logical that it would be very hard to take away sales once you have them unless you sell a better item and even that would seem like a much slower process than one day.
 
Maybe I don't understand how advertising works.....maybe common sense doesn't apply. Max Population advertising, Elite rating, great sales and someone doubles my rating in one day.
 
Honestly a clue if I'm building stores wrong.  Tears

Popularity rules. Make MAXIMUM advertising in one of your stores and see what happens! more departments may reduce those sales and any high market share is countered by quick price drops of local suppliers so it can't be kept up for long. Over the long run, less is more:  many stores selling smaller quantities will make more money than a huge store with large market share. 
 

28.04.2014, 20:57
Rogue_Cat
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Remie
Its time to reboot this game so everyone starts over, like the most business games already do.

But for this we would need a "Ladder realm" or something. I'm not feeling in the mood for losing everything I've worked on for years without announcement that this would be so. And seeing it destroyed in one day like in those competitive-destructive online games is not my cup of tea either. 
 

29.04.2014, 12:23
Vipero
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Remie
Its time to reboot this game so everyone starts over, like the most business games already do.

Go play the 'fast' game if that's what you fancy. 
 

29.04.2014, 13:51
ostojictina
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Remie
Its time to reboot this game so everyone starts over, like the most business games already do.

I also started at the bottom and invest some real money so I really think reboot is neccesary...try to bond with some players and achieve growth ;) 
 

2.05.2014, 14:49
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Remie
Its time to reboot this game so everyone starts over, like the most business games already do.
Its time for the real world to reboot and start anew...
Psh like thats ever going to happen...
If it did tho my bartering skills would make me rich ;D 
 

5.05.2014, 00:34
VentureWolf
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@Remie: that would be fun So-so
or, start a new country, where only beginners could play? 
 

10.05.2014, 02:51
faiez
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VentureWolf
@Remie: that would be fun So-so
or, start a new country, where only beginners could play?

I've found some old countries with untapped markets...
 
so there's still some opportunities out there...except margins are much lower than were maybe a year ago...best I can get now is a few 100%s , 1yr or 2yr ago I could get 5000%+ margins on some products... 
 

10.05.2014, 13:29
Cwalen
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Spending the points to remove the limitation on qual growth is indeed impressive.
And troubling.
 
The big boys play at Qual 100.
Which means $2 at level 20, $4 at level 40, $6 at 60, $8 at 80 and $10 at 100.
$30 per area that you wish to be involved in competitively.
 
Commerce, marketing, production, management, Science $150 minimum.
Healthcare, restaurants, +$60.
And if I chase every area I am involved in $330.
 
Popping them at 19, 39 ... lowers the cost to 25, or $125 minimum, $275 for full growth.
 
Given a best case average of say 6% per day, that's 10 points of qualification in 166 days or close enough to 5 years to get to quals of 100.
A dollar a week.
Throw in another dollar a week, to cover mining and agriculture costs.
I suppose I can spare 30C a day to play this game.
$547.50 Is still a lot to pay for a text based browser game.
 
Mary is throwing 3 virts a day, mike gets two + of them. Social ranking can claw back one point a week for a few people.
$287 investment looks better but still high.
 
I figure this game attracts and retains people who indulge in mathematics and long term planning.
 
Can anyone give me a plan/hope/dream?
 
Well
C 
 

14.05.2014, 15:55
punnu
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i agree with remie 
 

17.05.2014, 09:48
Cwalen
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Broker yard does pay off virts, helping with translation also works.
 
You only have to specalise in a few areas, and you can buy a Qualification level every 29 points which makes a big difference.
 
If you enjoy the game enough to play, $30, plus a few dollars a year is not too much to ask.
 
And you can compete with the big boys with that. 
 

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