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Topic created : 17.01.2010, 11:14
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This tendering become farce. I can't believe how something like this could be possible at all. In Rovaniemi I was selling beer for the last six day and had 100% market share. And today...I was second...in one day the winner of that tender got 52% market share...well this is bull...t
 
So I'm out...   

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17.01.2010, 12:49.     Subject: Sales
light76212001
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I have only sold my products on the last days. 
 

17.01.2010, 12:50.     Subject: last day
light76212001
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Thats singlular by the way.  I only sold the products on the last day.  Kept the price at zero. 
 

17.01.2010, 13:08
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17.01.2010, 13:15
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i know that...but tell me how it's possible to selling only in the last day and get >50% market share? it's not real...and yes ralf it's hillarious Very we! 
 

17.01.2010, 16:35

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I absolutely and strongly agree with turk.... This is insane by the way....
 
i have the same problem, no matter what strategies i make it seems its not working...
All the tender i join to makes me the top seller and almost 50-60% market share but on the day of tendering i would just lost...
So guys, how the HELL do you that things you do to win in this kind on situation your into????Again 
 

17.01.2010, 18:46
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and if the black companies are complaining, what hope do the rest of us have?Really? 
 

18.01.2010, 02:53

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pectopatop
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Surprise Gift Maybe tomorrow in Rovaniemi i will be the best seller, because yesterday i had no time to change contracts in shops, and i think that my beer will be the best Well (in the day AFTER tendering )
 
Turk, take it easy. It's just a game. As far i can understand, you guys spend ~4-6 hours/day for this game, am i right? Whether and there is a game of such victims? 
 

18.01.2010, 03:11
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pectopatop.. i wish you good luck for tomorrow Very we! 
 

18.01.2010, 05:26
ccm_tsang
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look at tender #399
shop opened 2 days before tender completes, supplies supposedly received 1 day before, open sales on day of tender completion ---  
 
first day of sales for 500m store = 13 060 200.00$
http://virtonomics.com/mary/main/unit/view/2465750 ...
 
how can smaller companies compete with such quality ?
 
of course more experienced players have spent more time and money in the game and should be rewarded and recognised.  but if the tender rules continue to not take consideration of different player levels and resources, i still cannot see how even the 'lesser black' companies can have a chance.
 
in real life, big companies do not bother going for small tenders because it is not worth their effort.  will admin consider different levels of tenders with different prizes?
 
tenders was introduced, i think, to increase interest in the game, and therefore revenue for the site.
 
as stated before in other threads:  no chance of winning = no interest in trying.  it's called 'learned helplessness'.  no/low interest eventually = no/low players.
 
no/low players eventually = low revenue. 
 

18.01.2010, 05:45
kavidyan
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Wow... i never thought so many players are in the same situation like me. I find it really hard to win in product tenders even when I have a store for home advantage. We do need a better system. 
 

18.01.2010, 09:34
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Even with my rankings as high as they are I can not even come close to winning some tenders. If I were to keep just a few stores and factories I'd have enough qualification up my sleeve to win a lot more, but for me that is not what I enjoy about the game. I play the game for the game and I accept I'll only win the odd tender here or there.
 
For everyone else who does not have the luxury of vast game resources the tenders are little more than a joke. You have the larger companies entering everything they can to boost their winnings (which is not really unusual, that is human nature), while all the smaller companies enter a few to try and win before realising they do not stand a chance. After that they give up and stop trying.
 
I really think that admin needs to have a good look at the situation and make some changes before it is too late.
The tenders are a big drawcard for the game (it is the main point you see in most of the advertising), but this will only be a short-term thing if changes aren't made.
 
I'm not asking to make tenders easier to win, just to allow more companies the opportunity to win.
My number 1 suggestion is to limit the 100 & 500m2 store tenders to smaller companies. The only reason big companies have stores like this is because of the tenders, it does not fit into the game at all.
 
Other suggestions of tenders for different levels of players should also be looked at. 
 

18.01.2010, 09:36

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pectopatop
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ccm_tsang
look at tender #399
i still cannot see how even the 'lesser black' companies can have a chance.

Just wait some time, and you can also enjoy this 'black club'. I remember, that some time ago companies like Mico Inc, JDS, Rashke and even Amantes was so little, with assets less than 50 millions. And in the same time, for example, Craminu had ~100 billions, or i had ~80 billions. And where are they today, and where are we? Just wait some time, and your time will became, i think 
 

18.01.2010, 10:03

Last time edited : 18.01.2010, 10:04
eVVe
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Yes All you need is to think.
Even a small company like me without snowman can win some,
Maybe I should say... Only 1 type I can win at the moment. 
 

18.01.2010, 12:53
Mike1
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i have won a few tenders but i agree with ccm_tsang.
 
Tendering is easier in lien because the realm is newer and more leveled between players.
 
On mary, there will be the same few winners most of the time because of the realm's age.
 
I thought tenders are an idea to attract new players , they are a good idea but IMO deserve more thought in order to not just make happy the few top players who already are far ahead but also newcomers. 
 

18.01.2010, 13:19

Last time edited : 18.01.2010, 13:23
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pectopatop
ccm_tsang
look at tender #399
i still cannot see how even the 'lesser black' companies can have a chance.

Just wait some time, and you can also enjoy this 'black club'. I remember, that some time ago companies like Mico Inc, JDS, Rashke and even Amantes was so little, with assets less than 50 millions. And in the same time, for example, Craminu had ~100 billions, or i had ~80 billions. And where are they today, and where are we? Just wait some time, and your time will became, i think

i agree being black will be a matter of time and effort.  the current black companies will become progressively better, and will grow faster than the soon-to-be-black ones.  players who are currently winning learns how to win more quickly.
 
it is actually not so much as being a black company and winning.  those companies have the quality products that others do not have.  by the time i am able to improve my product quality, the current black companies will have improved theirs by the same mile.
 
the store in question no longer exists, but i remember from earlier that quality 14+ cars were being sold.  a few others were also quality 14, the lowest quality being 11+
 
conclusion:  no contest 
 

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