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Topic created : 5.10.2009, 00:32
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I've started this thread because some work needs to be done to lower/ raise prices in the market. This is only possible with the help of a large group.
 
Alluminum: Costs are far too high to sell cola's at a good price, regardless if the quality is good. No one will pay 9$ for cola
 
This is just one MAJOR issue with my company. I'm sure there are several more issues to deal with.
 
How to change prices? It's kind of complicated. I THINK that if we get the major suppliers of natural resources (makes alluminum) to lower their prices, then the alluminum suppliers have more leeway with pricing. That gives us cola suppliers an even bigger gap for pricings. Would this work? One way or another, we need to make some changes.
 
Feel absolutely free to post any thing pertaining to this. Lets try and keep it on topic because this is a serious thread. Well
 
   

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16.11.2009, 14:53
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Mega stores are good but have a couple of drawbacks.
 
First you need a sufficient supply of goods to keep them stocked.
The amount should not be so high that you need to reduce your selling price under city average though.
 
Secondly, the efficiency demon.
Small stores are quite easy to keep efficiency high. Larger stores with more staff and higher rent require a higher qualification to keep efficiency up, especially when you have several in one region.
 
If you are only making 2m profit per day from a large store it probably isn't worth it. With a few small changes you should be able to increase profits.
I have 2 1000m2 stores that have 12m daily profit each. 
 

16.11.2009, 15:16
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i have some 100k stores and qualification in commerce 15...the efficiency is betwen 29-40% and profit is from 20-80kk
 
and i can't find the way to rise effieciency up to 50 at least... 
 

16.11.2009, 15:24
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and i can't find the way to rise effieciency up to 50 at least...
Only using game pointsNot so
I've got the same problem..I need 57 in commerce to manage my 4 storesEyes in a heap 
 

16.11.2009, 15:35
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i know that...but i don't want to give 100 points just to increase qualification Not so on the other way qualification is growing only for 0.09 per turn (it's like a spit in the see as we say in Slovenia Well )
 
i have one question about efieciency of factories if you don't mind. if i get it right it's better to have 2 or 3 small factories rather then 1 big. am i right in this? 
 

16.11.2009, 15:43
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if i get it right it's better to have 2 or 3 small factories rather then 1 big. am i right in this?
Absolutely right! There is only one shortcoming - it's difficult to manage more factories... 
 

16.11.2009, 15:51
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that's why i have bigger factories but now i see that this isn't good...damn it 
 

16.11.2009, 16:08
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Larger factories will lose more efficiency but will also have lower costs per item. 
 

16.11.2009, 18:29
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turkbostjan
i have one question about efieciency of factories if you don't mind. if i get it right it's better to have 2 or 3 small factories rather then 1 big. am i right in this?

Just let's look to company of Amantes... (it's part called "Production Group" in past).
And you will catch right answer
 
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Regards, Eugeny, K and K Corp. in past 
 

18.11.2009, 11:03
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Just let's look to company of Amantes... (it's part called "Production Group" in past).
And you will catch right answer
 
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Regards, Eugeny, K and K Corp. in past

All beautiful - but Amantes1 has a production Q of 34!
 
it'll take me forever + 6 days to get to maybe Q 12.. Not so 
 

19.11.2009, 18:05
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- the indications under the link "work efficiency" and the orange color efficiency numbers only apply to the FUTURE to be introduced efficiency rules. Currently, there is no number available to see the daily growth of efficiency, but only the green bars.
 
- its not about factory size, but how many people you have employed (5000 worker factory size with only 1000 workers still can give 100% but add that up to 2000 workers and efficiency comes down)
 
- one advantage of small factories is that you can introduce certain stuff like quality management for in-game-money, but bigger plants require game points for the same thing
 
- having your subdivs efficiency on 100% doesn't give you the highest Q-growth each turn.. other factors apply, too
 
- high-tech penalty related to efficiency: a factory with 1000 workers on Tech 3 runs on 100% efficiency... increased to tech 6 or 7 even 900 workers don't make more than 90% at my company.
 
- if you have many (small or big) enterprises you'll soon suffer from the max amount of subdiv penalty
 
the new efficiency regulation will require much higher Q because its based on amount of workers and the bar is set even lower than with the current penalties. It may help growing efficiency faster for some of the sectors -  under unknown circumstances. But after analyzing my green bars and new Q growth numbers, the improvement is marginal in most sectors. To my virtual business it looks like a further restriction holding me back from natural business development/doing what is fun: expanding.
 
I followed Amantes a bit,  if i recall correctly just before he merged his Q were in the teens and his retail sales crashed almost 50% after the merger. Refrigerators selling in his shops previously were >4 quality and today just 1.27.  This caused by the max. qty of subdivs penalty i assume.
 
Now he increased Q for production & commerce and if the number in globalreport/manufacture are correct as per today this put it back to 4.47, and the retail sales amount similar as before.  When the new efficiency regulation kicks in, he'll likely need to add 100 Q points per sector to equalize again. 
 

20.11.2009, 09:33
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Mike1
- its not about factory size, but how many people you have employed (5000 worker factory size with only 1000 workers still can give 100% but add that up to 2000 workers and efficiency comes down)
 
- having your subdivs efficiency on 100% doesn't give you the highest Q-growth each turn.. other factors apply, too
 
- if you have many (small or big) enterprises you'll soon suffer from the max amount of subdiv penalty
 
the new efficiency regulation will require much higher Q because its based on amount of workers and the bar is set even lower than with the current penalties. It may help growing efficiency faster for some of the sectors -  under unknown circumstances. But after analyzing my green bars and new Q growth numbers, the improvement is marginal in most sectors. To my virtual business it looks like a further restriction holding me back from natural business development/doing what is fun: expanding.

The new efficiency regulation and qualification growth system will be a big spanner in the works for a lot of companies.
 
Adding equipment and employees requirements will likely crash most office efficiencies, which will have an impact on all enterprises in the relevant region.
 
Qualification growth will be based on factory loading. This will reverse the current situation of efficiency basis. As Mike said keeping efficiency high means keeping factories small or having a loading rate at less than 100%.
 
The announcement says the whole system will become more predictable and stable, but I'm expecting chaos in the initial changeover period. It may be a good idea to save some cash to make sure you can fix what needs fixing. If you rely on day to day income you could be left short when the efficiency regulations take effect. 
 

12.12.2009, 08:24

Last time edited : 12.12.2009, 08:25
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What happened to this thread been about working together to regulate prices.
 
If anyone wants to have privates discussions about working together message me.
 
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