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Topic created : 9.03.2010, 20:02

brusiol
 
How can i sell chicken (livestock) from my poultry farm to other my poultry farm?
In my first farm i produce 100 chicken and in the second i produce eggs. in my second farm is 1600/5000 livestock. I want to buy livestock from my first farm to my second.    

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9.03.2010, 22:08

Ablemit
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Go to "Sales", you going to see "Chicken" and in the right you must choose "Only to my company". Put price that is little higher then your prime cost and click "Save changes". After you did this, go to your farm where you need chickens, and buy them.. (in tab click "Mine")
 
I hope it helped you! Well 
 

10.03.2010, 00:04

warfreak
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Or you can set it below your prime cost, and that should be done for a few reasons, well, one reason, because you are only selling to yourself, it doesn't matter where the money goes, selling it below the prime cost will be a loss, and therefore, you don't need to pay profit tax. 
 

10.03.2010, 00:11

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Even for $0.01 
 

10.03.2010, 02:55

Ablemit
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But is it better to sell it for $0.01 or prime cost? Like which should i do for my company, because i don't want to pay a lot of taxes 
 

10.03.2010, 03:31

warfreak
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At long as you are not making a profit, you can do whatever you wish. That is, the selling price needs to be low the prime cost, the once you sell units about the prime cost, you are making a profit, and that will be taxed. So any number BELOW the prime cost is fine. 
 

10.03.2010, 11:23

brusiol
 
thx Ablemit, it works Well
(you gain rate +1 Well
 

10.03.2010, 22:59

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some players say that negative profits in factories slow down the qualification growth ...i can't verify this statement, just let you know. 
 

11.03.2010, 00:05

warfreak
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I think it should slow down qualification growth, if it is a negative profit, you aren't running a successful business, and it always says that growth in qualification requires you to have success in the industries, be it managing offices or factories. Again, it is speculation. 
 

11.03.2010, 00:09

Last time edited : 11.03.2010, 00:14

mrstickball
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I'd like to get a definite answer on that prior to doing something stupid...
 
I mean, if I can jack up factory prices to increase qualifications, I will do that ASAP. Otherwise, I am testing it out this next turn. I've dropped prices at all factories and farms to below-prime pricing (in order to save about $500k in taxes a turn).
 
If my rate of qualification increases drops next turn, then I will report it. 
 

11.03.2010, 17:27

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With the new qualification reform came changes that reduced the ability to artificially increase qualification (like selling to warehouse for inflated prices to increase profitability). Before the reform it was a common practice.
 
Having an unprofitable enterprise should still reduce qualification growth slightly. 
 

11.03.2010, 22:44

mrstickball
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Its possible it reduces it 'slightly'. However, it must not be much, as I dropped all factories to sell at a loss and didn't see much of a change.
 
FYI, what is the best way to increase the speed of qualification levels for Commerce? I need higher commerce qualification levels, but they seem to accrue very, very slowly for me. 
 

12.03.2010, 09:09.     Subject: No I can verify

light76212001
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For 2-3 turns I validated that increasing the price in your factories does not increase the rate.  It stayed the same growth rates as I lowered my prices on the factory .  We use to do that in the old system. 
 

12.03.2010, 14:38

Last time edited : 12.03.2010, 14:41

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mrstickball
what is the best way to increase the speed of qualification levels for Commerce?

The one thing that will make the most difference is number of employees VS number of enterprises.
This will be what is hampering growth for the majority of players, and is the main reason for people not qualifying for the CM.
 
If you get total employee number to just below what your qualification will handle you should get OK growth.
If you get total employees to this number with the least amount of enterprises possible you will have much higher growth.
 
For commerce this means big stores with big employee numbers.
For production it means more high-end, high employee factories.
For science research it means high level labs with high employee numbers.
etc.
 
FWIW, you can compensate employee numbers for qualification somewhat.
 
light76212001
For 2-3 turns I validated that increasing the price in your factories does not increase the rate.  It stayed the same growth rates as I lowered my prices on the factory .  We use to do that in the old system.

What range did you use for your pricing?
Did you go from profitable to unprofitable in the financial report? 
 

12.03.2010, 22:26

Pyrex
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lets see, from my calculations:
 
Factory A sells Factory B 5000 units of something. Both have 20% of tax.
 
Factory A
Prime Cost: 1
Sales: 1
Revenues: 5000 Expenses: 5000
Income: 0
Tax: 0
 
Factory B
Prime Cost: 1
Sales 10
Revenues: 50000 Expenses: 5000
Income: 45000 (36000 after tax)
Tax: 9000
 
A+B Income: 36000
 
Now with higher prices
 
Factory A
Prime Cost: 1
Sales: 5
Revenues: 25000 Expenses: 5000
Income: 20000 (16000 after taxes)
Tax: 4000
 
Factory B
Prime Cost: 1
Sales 10
Revenues: 50000 Expenses: 25000
Income: 25000 (20000 after tax)
Tax: 5000
 
A+B Income: 36000
 
So i guess it's the same right? I think what matters is profit tax %, so you should make the factory with less tax more profitable. 
 

12.03.2010, 22:36

Last time edited : 12.03.2010, 22:40

Pyrex
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Less than prime cost
 
Factory A
Prime Cost: 1
Sales: 0.1
Revenues: 500 Expenses: 5000
Income: -4500
Tax: 0
 
Factory B
Prime Cost: 1
Sales 10
Revenues: 50000 Expenses: 500
Income: 49500 (39600 after tax)
Tax: 9900
 
A+B Income: 35100
 
So in this case, the profit will be lower.
 
This example is made for supplies, not equipment, to simplify, but in the end it'll be the same. 
 

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