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Topic created : 27.11.2015, 05:39
JakeCT
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I'm about to purchase a large Manganese mine to replace my existing one.
 
I'm looking for people to invest points into this mine.  I will be putting in 35 points or more.  Anyone else wants in they have to put in at least 5 points, I will manage the mine and you will get a minimum of 1,915,000 units of manganese (not all at once), the amount will increase by 383,000 units per point.  The more points involved, the more units of manganese you will get.
 
The mine will be at least Q3.5 and tech 13, I expect an output above Q7.4 to start.  As tech increases so will the output quality.
 
PM me if interested, I make the purchase in 4 days so all points will need to be transferred by then.   

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27.11.2015, 05:43
JakeCT
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FYI,  Expected purchase price per unit is about $21.00 
 

28.11.2015, 00:32
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Why do you need manganese if it is from an independent supplier?
My opinion, the market is not enough bauxite and copper. Im ready to invest in these mines! 
 

28.11.2015, 01:46
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Manganese is a bad investment in any case; It's mainly used for specializations of products with a minor quality bonus, but in all cases it screws up the average quality of all needed consumables and it would lose it's purpose.
 
I'm wondering what you are planning to use it for anyway? I expect it's probably more cost efficient to spent points on other resources.
 
And what Anton mentioned: There is a lot of demand for bauxite and copper; If you have a similar offer for these resources, I'm quite sure people are willing to invest one or more points for a % of a mine. 
 

28.11.2015, 04:45
JakeCT
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OK thanks for the feedback, let me think about this a bit. 
 

28.11.2015, 18:06
JakeCT
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Opened a new thread for those interested in Bauxite & Copper:  
 
http://virtonomics.com/lien/forum/forum_new/102/topic/105286/view ...
 
...Same basic structure of the deal. 
 

2.12.2015, 19:23
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TyStuFF
Manganese is a bad investment in any case; It's mainly used for specializations of products with a minor quality bonus, but in all cases it screws up the average quality of all needed consumables and it would lose it's purpose.

Not sure this is true.  I tried production with and with out q1 manganese where the manganese would lower the average input quality by a greater percentage than the bonus it adds to output.  My output final output was still higher with the manganese.  I'll do some more testing. 
 

15.12.2015, 23:01

Last time edited : 15.12.2015, 23:15
JakeCT
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Thanks for the feedback.
 
I decided to run test to see what the differences were, I used my Metallurgical Factory to make steel to come up with the answers.
 
All of this was done w/ Tech 19 at the same Steel Plant.
 
Various Steel Quality Outputs
Steel Type
Iron Q
Coal Q
Manganese Q
Chrome Q
Silica Q
Output Volume
Output Q
Steel (+0.0%)
7.90
7.85
n/a
n/a
n/a
81,423
18.87
Alloy Steel HGS(+20.0%)
7.90
7.85
7.10
7.43
7.44
67,853
22.53
Alloy Steel HGS(+20.0%)
7.90
7.85
1.00
7.43
7.44
67,853
20.87
Alloy Steel G(+10.0%)
7.90
7.85
7.10
n/a
n/a
67,853
20.55
Alloy Steel G(+10.0%)
7.90
7.85
1.00
n/a
n/a
67,853
18.82
 
 

15.12.2015, 23:46
TyStuFF
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Quality is fun, but not really valuable if you approach in an economical way.
 
Also this test doesn't consider other relevant scenarios, like:
-Simple steel, produced from even higher quality iron and coal mines = Higher quality input materials and end product.
-Villa: 10 points which gives 2% quality bonus to all mines and factories in the region, this basically accumulates quality over the whole production chain.
Size 1 factories: Business boosters for some cash, giving you 10% quality bonus.
Size 3+ factories: Business boosters for points (2 points +14%, 3 points +16%). Size 2 is not really worth the effort, since it's just 10% bonus for a point, which you can achieve for cash with size 1 as well.
 
You would get Q21.17 steel, if you use the basic steel specialization, with a 10 point villa, and a 10% booster. And then I don't even take in consideration the 2% bonus you get on the mining from the villa. 
 

16.12.2015, 04:59
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But how much would those Q7 resources cost in points? How large would those mines have to be to get the ore cost to a reasonable level? Personally I don't find Q21 steel commercially viable for any product.. 
 

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