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Topic created : 23.09.2016, 11:59

Last time edited : 23.09.2016, 16:25

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Let's discuss:
 
Imagine a fairly new player. He gets the hang of how things work in virtonomics. He participates actively in the contest for presidents and wins a nice VIRT prize. (EDITED after Waerth's correct remark)
 
Then he starts to contemplate about what to do with his virts. He decides he wants to use 5 of them rightaway. He takes a look at the virt market. Currently, those 5 virts would probably quite easily fetch him $1Tn. So that's option A.
 
Now, that looks a bit boring because this player was actually dreaming of starting a vertically integrated production line that starts with oil. How cool would it be to have his own oil well?! So, let's calculate: he can buy a well with a capacity of 60M barrels. Given that he has no qualification in mining yet, most this oil will come out as low grade oil.
 
The independent supplier offers this at less than $150. So his 60M barrel well is worth about $9Bn. Compared to option A, that's quite a large discrepancy!
 
Now, I'm not saying the independent supplier should charge $16k per barrel. And I'm definitely not saying there should be no independent supplier at all! If any more are taken away, the game will lose even more of its appeal to players that want to play for free. (even though they're not paying, they are important in helping the game reap revenue from the paying players)
 
But I am saying that this is an issue. It takes away a bit of the fun when the rational decision would be to sell virts on the stock market rather than startup a dream business.
 
Maybe there should be an independent supplier of virts? Maybe the price of the independent supplier should be tied to the price of the ores the independent supplier offers? Ludicrous ideas. Hopefully you guys have better ones or have other perspectives :-)   

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23.09.2016, 12:21

waerth
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You can not sell the game points bought with real money on the stock market. I tried it.
 
So your whole discussion is useless.
 
Please do not raise the price levels of independent suppliers. As it is the prices of goods in this game are absolutely out of whack. When you see how much people are supposed to earn in the cities. Yet they can afford 1000$ bread?
 
 

23.09.2016, 16:06

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I don't totally follow your logic Nash.  Most players that spend points buy resources that have no independent supplier as they are rare and reap the most profit.  If one decides to buy resources where there is an independent supplier, it must mean it's a better choice than the independent supplier do to the quality/price trade off.  I don't understand how increasing the price of the independent supplier does anything except to make these resources less competitive and force more players into buying paid resources (or quitting in frustration). 
 

23.09.2016, 22:33

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Virt merchants have their own game and its dangerous to force all players into their circle of influence. Handing some of administration rights over to virt market trolls is not what I beg for. 
IT'S JUST BUSINESS!
 

28.09.2016, 12:21

Last time edited : 28.09.2016, 12:22

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If you don't like the virt price on the open market don't ask the game admins to increase market costs because of hyperinflation and no real control over said market... The person you reference to would likely buy something else other than oil. Something with value at q1, something like gold, easy to sell nice reserve very low market accessibility.
 
If said person wants to sell their virts for 1000x the price to product ratio compared to other games I've played so be it, both parties will be happy. If the same player expects everyone to fork out more from independent suppliers to increase their products value to virt costs, they can meet up with both of my 3rd fingers Cheerfully
 
Independent suppliers are there due to the resources popularity or base game staple which w/o it the game would ultimately die. Simply doubling oil costs could cripple lien increasing it 1000x would destroy it. 
 

12.10.2016, 17:01

Last time edited : 12.10.2016, 17:03

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If he bought a bauxite mine with his 5 virts he could produce 30M bauxite and sell them for over 30K each which is more than 900B or he could produce cars with the bauxite and earn 2T in profits. The reason virts are so expensive is because you can make so much money off of them if you use them wisely. 
 

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