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Topic created : 17.06.2015, 05:37

Last time edited : 11.05.2016, 15:23

G_Money33

Consolidated Transnational Corp (CTC)

G_Money33 Ltd.

In Flames We Trust – Corp Thread (Lien)

Welcome to the In Flames We Trust corporation thread! In this thread the corp will be discussing all sorts of things.

If you’re not part of the corp, don’t worry! You can read the thread or post in the thread as well.

In Flames We Trust will try to hold most discussions here. For any discussions that need to be super top secret (maybe when we’re trying to win a tender), we’ll retreat to PMs. But we’ll be discussing things out here that would usually be kept behind closed doors.

Thread Index:

Topic	Page
In Flames Glossary	1
Restaurant Qualification Project	16/17
Discussion: Sharing paid resources and virt stock market	19/20
Auto Repair Teamwork Project	27
Reference: Political Project Listing	30
Market Domination Project	31
Bee Project	41
Reference: How to make $$	43

Active Members (19/19):

Name	Company	Title	Project Leader	Tender Status
G_Money33	Consolidated Transnational Corp (CTC)	President	Admissions, Restaurant, Mrk Domination	2
Desolation72724	Bjorn Enterprises	Deputy President	Tenders/Contests	1
gberdine	gberdine Industries	Vice President	Auto Repair, Bees, Research	2
Jayman	Jayman Corporation	Member	Tenders/Contests	1
Wonson	Wondime	Member	Tenders/Contests	1
Sulaco	Weyland-Yutani Corporation	Member		2
houc	htb International	Member		1
mort100	Mo Corp	Member		3
Seawerst	Seawerst Limited	Member		2
paradokss	paradokss Trejd	Member		3
JamesKroger	Kroger Corpor	Member		1
Rob_B	RB LLC	Member		1
TheSponge6	The Sponge Inc.	Member		1
AdRome	Roma Honora	Member		1
TyStuFF	TyStuFF Ltd	Member
sulll	skulll sdBD	Member
viperfire	viperfire Corporation	Member
Nikoliil	Niko Enterprises	Member
Nitron1	Nitron International	Member

Tender status: 1) Participating in tender action 2) mainly not participating but will provide resources 3) not participating at this time

Honorary Members:
mdmoyer, Moyer Industries, Honorable In Flames member; Member Infinity Enterprises Corp
giantkin, Giantkin Inc, Honorable In Flames member
windps, Wind’s International, Honorable In Flames member

Former Members:
BlackTree, BlackTree
Abbots, Abbots Incorporated
Enlight, Ahmed Enterprise

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16.03.2017, 14:43

G_Money33

Consolidated Transnational Corp (CTC)

G_Money33 Ltd.

Dig, welcome aboard! I recommend 1st step do company reorg. It's fun and it sounds like you need it.

If you're up for it, let's discuss in this thread. You can share your thoughts and others will respond or we can just hurl best advice at you haha!

G
Ridiculously

17.03.2017, 01:21

gberdine

gberdine International

Sports Tools may make a comeback as they are an ingredient for one of the Kindergarten lines.

17.03.2017, 03:56

Last time edited : 17.03.2017, 05:56

Dignifried

G_Money33
...... 1st step do company reorg. It's fun and it sounds like you need it
If you're up for it, let's discuss in this thread......

I am eager to hear suggestions. A clear sense of direction would be nice for a change.

gberdine
Sports Tools may make a comeback as they are an ingredient for one of the Kindergarten lines.

That is good news, indeed.

To get the ball rolling, here is my situation.
I am mostly (80%+) set up in Russia, China and Kazakhstan.

Historically (since the demise of independent bauxite supply) my core business has been a maxed out steel plant, a few microchip factories and more recently a small woodlot.

Production: everything else in my portfolio, is either vertical integration to consume my steel and chips, or wild experiments that i never cleaned up.

I try to keep up with tops capacity in livestock.
I have failed miserably and repeatedly in the services sector.
I really don't like plantations and anything seasonal.
I don't mind retail, would like to expand that
never tried mining (i am too cheap)

currently...
I just got back into researching again
I just bought/built up a complete yacht production line on a whim (squirrel!!!)

17.03.2017, 19:28

G_Money33

Consolidated Transnational Corp (CTC)

G_Money33 Ltd.

Dignifried
I just bought/built up a complete yacht production line on a whim (squirrel!!!)

Well, one approach is to shrink first. Use profit reports to look at your set-up from different angles and clean up or shut down losers and low profit operations. You will be left with your winners, higher daily profit and more room under your qualification to set-up more big winners.

In general the old services are not good. The brand new services others can also speak to better than I. We can help you with profitable restaurants and service stations if you'd like.

You could also offer to retail for others in the corp if you like retailing. Some hate it and would partner with a retailer I think.

Maybe if you lay out what rare resources you have, others can direct you in profitable directions based on that. Is it just the woodlot?

G

18.03.2017, 01:09

Last time edited : 18.03.2017, 20:34

Dignifried

G_Money33

Well, one approach is to shrink first....

Lets run with that.
I want to clean up my inventory flows/prices at the same time.
Step1: shut down the dogs, and look at tomorrows reports

G_Money33

In general the old services are not good. The brand new services others can also speak to better than I. We can help you with profitable restaurants and service stations if you'd like.

I might consider services again after I clean up my production and retail sectors

G_Money33

You could also offer to retail for others in the corp if you like retailing. Some hate it and would partner with a retailer I think.

I would probably burn out quick if I tried that

G_Money33

Maybe if you lay out what rare resources you have, others can direct you in profitable directions based on that. Is it just the woodlot?

Yes all I have at the moment is 1 tiny woodlot.
I send the wood to a furniture factory most of the time.
I also have a pulp/paper mill and a print press. that has similar margins.
I cant supply both concurrently, so I switch back and forth based on the color of my mood ring

this is today's production (aka Movement::Industry) report

product	quantity	quality	global	prime
Sports tools	559 487	9.97	25.16	$42.74
Steel	487 251	4.80	8.90	$34.30
Milk	399 604	6.83	11.80	$0.62
Meat	339 792	5.71	12.85	$2.82
Eggs	327 826	4.83	11.29	$0.81
Wool	221 620	5.96	21.98	$1.45
Сhemicals	129 920	4.80	7.91	$12.30
Canned products	90 998	6.70	20.44	$28.62
Fabric	77 559	7.02	32.06	$9.08
Toys	60 386	10.81	41.49	$40.61
Plastics	54 085	5.75	12.03	$61.03
Synthetic fabric	44 779	6.24	18.77	$49.99
Tires	36 748	8.96	22.16	$108.60
Bicycle	31 718	6.65	25.95	$109.66
Camera	25 583	11.15	22.41	$82.52
Dyestuff	20 305	3.99	13.92	$65.30
Components	18 369	8.47	23.64	$30.40
Leather	17 402	6.82	25.12	$25.62
Electronic components	17 357	4.43	12.28	$103.81
Rubber	10 673	3.58	7.97	$44.99
Trainer	10 091	6.98	24.84	$309.61
Carbon fiber	9 358	5.46	16.66	$107.15
Glass	8 775	2.06	7.45	$17.62
Video camera	6 342	6.39	20.40	$422.74
Gardening tools	5 328	5.91	17.06	$67.86
GPS-navigators	4 830	6.40	24.00	$79.43
Wood	4 490	11.96	10.04	$8.66
Kettle grill	2 664	7.23	21.69	$256.31
Sanitary equipment	1 847	2.49	7.65	$59.67
Jet Ski	1 241	10.53	35.33	$1 981.68
Machine	1 075	11.83	33.02	$1 243.70
Furniture	203	15.75	23.62	$4 862.18
Computer	72	5.88	24.03	$702.65
Cow	25	1.35	11.67	$609.69
Pigs	20	1.35	12.51	$110.96
Refrigerators	5	2.48	26.68	$1 022.52
Yacht interiors	1	11.30	54.39	$498 085.24

... it will be interesting to see what tomorrow looks like

edit: maybe not tomorrow, I am only 5% into my analysis after a full day.
On the bright side, soccer balls seem to still be a cash cow at approx $1000/worker per day and a 6.79% daily ROA

What other metrics do any of you use?
IMHO Return On Assets is a lousy metric in this game because most veterans are swimming in cash.
I still feel profit/worker is an important metric for factories. Thoughts?

31.03.2017, 23:31

Dignifried

I had to close the toy factory that my kind uncle gave to me so many years ago; I hope he understands.

It turns out my factory choices weren't nearly as messed up as I believed. The only factories I closed were 2 toy facts and 1 camera fact. I also brought a lot of my techs up to target with many more to upgrade yet.

Since noone replied with a better metric than $/workplace I used that as a rough guide for my buildup. I will post the updated industry report if anyone asks to see it.

Notable changes are:
I shook the cobwebs out of my wallet and splurged on a half price goldmine, plus an oil well and a fishing base.

I could use some advice on:

1. the best use of gold, right now I am making gilded computer chips. I was thinking art decor might be best when I get my gold to Q4.

2. the best use of Q6(ish) oil. I am inclined to make fuel for gas stations.

3. my fish options are: fish, sturgeon and crabs
I like the looks of sturgeon -> caviar.

4. I have already jumped into the service sector (yet again) in a small way. all advice is appreciated on that front.
..... such as is city population more important than the citizens wealth and wages
..... should I build level 1's and grow vs. jump right in to level 5's?
..... and so on. I don't even know what the right questions are, lol

3.04.2017, 18:37

Last time edited : 3.04.2017, 19:01

Jayman

Jayman Corporation

Jayman Incorporated

Jayman Rulezzz!

Cost to produce data at current market prices ($70M/tower):

Tower Q	Traffic	Speed	Wear	Cost/MB
1	354.55	9.6	0.96%	$1,895
5	620	17	0.90%	$1,020
10	1,247	34	0.79%	$443
15	2,509	68	0.64%	$178
20	5,046	137	0.48%	$66
25	10,149	275	0.33%	$23
30	20,413	553	0.22%	$7
50	334,096	9,046	0.10%	$0.21
70	5,468,000	148,055	0.04%	$0.005
100	362,045,943	9,802,964	0.01%	$0.00002

Using the market price of $70M for Q15 towers, the value of other quality towers can be calculated. For example a Q10 tower only produces half as much data as a Q15 tower and wears out more quickly so at half the cost it's a bad deal since you get the same amount of data and you have to repair it more often. To get the cost/MB equivalent to Q15 towers ($178/MB), you'd have to buy the Q10 tower for $28M which means they aren't worth more than that amount (they're worth less since the speed is slower which effects service level).

Tower Q	Market Price
1	< $7M
5	< $12M
10	< $28M
15	$70M
20	> $188M
25	> $542M
30	> $1.7B
50	> $58B

7.04.2017, 14:39

G_Money33

Consolidated Transnational Corp (CTC)

G_Money33 Ltd.

Dignifried
I had to close the toy factory that my kind uncle gave to me so many years ago; I hope he understands.

I'll look into gold.

Regarding service sector, let's continue to discuss here. But issue is vast, so I'd post in main forum as well on service sector and see what you get.

G

5.07.2017, 20:20

chris.abrams

Where did everybody go???

So here I sat, spent a week ploughing through the thread, sometimes going off to check things that have been said in the game, and finally work my way to the bottom...and then...last post three months ago!

What happened to everybody?! How's it all working out for you all? How are the mutant chickens and bees getting on?

This thread has been the best thread that I think I've ever read about a game. I've either learnt something specifically, or been prompted to go and look something up and find out for myself. I'm not a user manual reader, I plug it in and press a few buttons, and see what happens, or watch someone else do it and have a go myself...and that's why this this was such a great thread. I was completely out of my depth, but loved it.

If there's a better bar that you all hang out in, can someone tell me where it is and what the dress code is so I can get in and try to overhear the gossip?

I'll bring along a bottle of my ropey Q2.3 wine (talking of which, since when is wine distilled??) and a lump of my very own Q5 cheese.

16.07.2017, 02:34

gberdine

gberdine International

A lot of the discussion moved to the Corp chat. I don't visit this very often.

2.11.2017, 21:07

TyStuFF

I'm back after a little inactivity. Kinda went bankrupt, so time for a fresh start!

If there is someone in need of some additional production/livestock qualification, please shoot, and I can build a bunch of factories for you. (would need some budget though)

9.11.2017, 06:40

Last time edited : 9.11.2017, 07:00

windps