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Topic created : 13 June 2010, 14:36

Last time edited : 22 July 2010, 08:06

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Common info
 
If the player qualification is fully utilized, qualification growth will be faster.
 
That is the ideal growth factor - when the company is working with 100% efficiency and full usage of a top manager capacity. However, there are the following additional factors to effect qualification growth:
 
management's growth is additionally evaluated by paid taxes of the company
 
commerce's growth is additionally evaluated by profit (paid taxes) of stores.
 
production's, mining and animal husbandry growth is evaluated by the quality of produced goods. Ideally, the company must produce high quality goods. At high levels of qualification, output quality should be equal to the average quality of the realm. For lower levels of qualification it can be lower.
 
Optimal growth of science is evaluated by the amount of technology inventions in the previous 15 turns and the sale of technology (not license) in the previous 15 turns.
 
agricultural growth has no additional factors;  growth only happens during the harvest season.
 
marketing's growth is evaluated by volume of advertising. Single volumes of advertising and / or the total amount of advertising must comply with the current level of player.
 
The ideal load - this is when top1 and top3 are utilized to the maximum.
~~~
 
What is top1, top2,  top3?
 
To run a subdivision with full efficiency, a suitable Top Manager qualification (Q) is required. A players qualification grows every day, according to a summary of factors from all subdivisions of the respective Q. One indicator is 100% efficiency at every subdivision, but there are other "invisible" factors which effect Q growth. Those are Top1, top2 and top3.
 
When the new qualifications system was introduced, those invisible factors Top1-3 were displayed at each subdivision for a while in a special window which looked like this:
 

 
Top1 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the current settings (current staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top2 - How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the required settings (required staff number and qualification) in a single subdivision
Top3 - total number of staff for the whole company
~~~
 
How to achive growth from this table?
 
It's very simple - you must load your top manager at each unit and throughout the company.
Ie if the load is ideal, then the hiring of another employee, reduced eff. all units of the industry. If we increase the qualifications of personnel that eff. also decreases (only in this unit)
Conventionally, it can be represented as:
 

 
Note: You can artificially increase the qualification of staff, to the maximize load of top1
 
Is there a caveat - top1 and top3 can compensate for each other. For example, in this case, eff. will be 100%, although top1 overloaded (because top3 underloaded):
 

 
But, growth will not be perfect (due to lack of load on top3)
 
Note: Overloading of top-manager are not recommended - reduce growth due to low eff. will be stronger than in case of low load.
Note: Easy way to maximize load on top1 - set the total number of staff to the values from this table, and then at each enterprise increases the qualification until total efficiency  starts falling
~~~
 
Bonuses from awards have influence to the growth?
 
Yes and noWell
For growth takes value of native top, but if the load exceeds its capacity, the bonuses help to avoid reducing the efficiency, and consequently - reducing the growth will not:
 

 
~~~
 
Which is better - a large subdivision, or lots of little ones?
 
For growth of top manager - no difference.
 
Example:
Qualifications of a top manager in the production = 7.
 
Situation 1: two units at 3500 workplaces (personnel qualification - 2)
Situation 2: 10 units at 700 workplaces (personnel qualification - 6,78)
 
In both cases, the load on top1 (for each unit) and top3 (the entire company) is the same.
 
In the former case, less salary costs and stress of the office. In the second case - have the opportunity to put more high tech, but the load on the office are much higher.
~~~
 
How additional factors affect the growth?
 
Only downward. Ie if your top1 and top3 not loaded, then additional factors will not be able to compensate for the low load.
 
Approximate calculation of growth is as follows:
1. Determine the base growth  (depending on workload top1 and top3)
2. If eff. unit is less 100%, then the base is reduced.
3. Multiplied by a coefficient of additional factors (eg, for managment and commerce can be reduced to 10 times) In best case coefficient = 1 (not reduces)
~~~
 
How do I know how perfect growing my skills?
 
Install this script (originally by test01; adapted for Chrome by Ixnad)
How to install user script
~~~
 
Special thanks to Mike1Well   

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13 June 2010, 14:39

Last time edited : 18 June 2010, 22:35

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Usefull info
 
Top1 data you can get here
~~~
Minimum level requirements of top-manager
(by tech level)
 
Tech lvlTop
11
21
31
41
51
62
73
84
95
107
119
1212
1315
1418
1522
1627
1732
1838
1944
2052
2160
2269
2378
2489
25100
26113
27126
28141
29157
30173

Example:
Farm size = 20 work places
Tech lvl = 25
Eployee qualification = 13.14
Requirements for top-manager:
by staff - 8.9 (~9)
by tech level - 100
Total requirements is maximum of (staff_requirements|tech_requirements)
In this case minimal level of top-manager for 100% effectivity is Q100
 
That requirements is common for all kind of qualification
~~~
 
Top3 table:
 
Top levelAnimal farmsFactoriesStores
Laboratories
Offices
160400408
2150100010020
3270180018036
4420280028056
5600400040080
68105400540108
710507000700140
813208800880176
91620108001080216
101950130001300260
112310154001540308
122700180001800360
133120208002080416
143570238002380476
154050270002700540
164560304003040608
175100340003400680
185670378003780756
196270418004180836
206900460004600920
2175605040050401008
2282505500055001100
2389705980059801196
2497206480064801296
25105007000070001400
26113107540075401508
27121508100081001620
28130208680086801736
29139209280092801856
30148509900099001980
3115810105400105402108
3216800112000112002240
3317820118800118802376
3418870125800125802516
3519950133000133002660
3621060140400140402808
3722200148000148002960
3823370155800155803116
3924570163800163803276
4025800172000172003440
4127060180400180403608
4228350189000189003780
4329670197800197803956
4431020206800206804136
4532400216000216004320
4633810225400225404508
4735250235000235004700
4836720244800244804896
4938220254800254805096
5039750265000265005300
5141310275400275405508
5242900286000286005720
5344520296800296805936
5446170307800307806156
5547850319000319006380
5649560330400330406608
5751300342000342006840
5853070353800353807076
5954870365800365807316
6056700378000378007560
6158560390400390407808
6260450403000403008060
6362370415800415808316
6464320428800428808576
6566300442000442008840
6668310455400455409108
6770350469000469009380
6872420482800482809656
6974520496800496809936
70766505110005110010220
71788105254005254010508
72810005400005400010800
73832205548005548011096
74854705698005698011396
75877505850005850011700
76900606004006004012008
77924006160006160012320
78947706318006318012636
79971706478006478012956
80996006640006640013280
811020606804006804013608
821045506970006970013940
831070707138007138014276
841096207308007308014616
851122007480007480014960
861148107654007654015308
871174507830007830015660
881201208008008008016016
891228208188008188016376
901255508370008370016740
911283108554008554017108
921311008740008740017480
931339208928008928017856
941367709118009118018236
951396509310009310018620
961425609504009504019008
971455009700009700019400
981484709898009898019796
99151470100980010098020196
100154500103000010300020600
 
 

13 June 2010, 17:43

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+ 6, noglues5.  Thankyou very much for this GiftHeart 
 

13 June 2010, 20:39

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most generous of you to share, noglues5 maybe i'll get some decent growth with your tips.  thanks again 
 

19 June 2010, 14:04

Last time edited : 7 July 2010, 20:15

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Q10 in management for 26 days (to win points in CM):
 
dayscurrent top
qualification
top growthdescription
111,0004 offices (2 workers with qualification 1.00)
2-320,6742 offices (8 w./ q. 1.00) + 1 office (4 w./ q. 3.06)
4-530,5352 offices (18 w./ q. 1.00)
6-840,4542 offices (28 w./q. 1.40)
9-1150,4002 offices (40 w./q. 1.66)
12-1460,3602 offices (54 w./q. 1.85)
15-1870,3302 offices (70 w./q. 2.00)
19-2280,3062 offices (88 w./q. 2.11)
23-2690,2862 offices (108 w./q. 2.21)

Don't forget to pay enough taxes
management's growth is additionally evaluated by paid taxes of the company
Well 
 

3 July 2010, 21:47

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Hi everyone, it seems that the table on maximum numbers of employees per level might be not exact, or need some changes if there are additional management efficiency add-ons being received. I have Management Q3 now, and have 100% planned efficiency for my three offices, with total number of 43 employees, each office with Q1 (employee numbers per office: 34, 5, 4).
 
Just wanted to warn that you should not follow the tables blindly, but test yourself! Well. And also the office efficiency is distributed not lineary - I had 100% in my major office, but percentages in 80s in other two - so you probably should check each office for planned efficieny if you change something in one of them. However this could also be due to my status as new player having a hired management with manager efficiency +100%, but then it's a question how all this is calculated.
 
Or otherwise I don't get something regarding those Top1, Top2 and Top3 boundaries. 
 

7 July 2010, 20:22

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SciencePark: your top3 (Q3) in managment is overloaded (max - 36, now - 43), but:
office_34 - top1 also overloaded, but you are have an innovation +100% to top efficiency
office_5 and office_4 - top1 not fully utilized, so top efficiency not falls catastrophically. 
 

9 July 2010, 17:23

Last time edited : 9 July 2010, 17:26

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Hey noglues, what an awesome piece of information! Thanks!
 
If I understand you right,
 
TOP1 = How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the current settings (current staff number and qualification)
TOP2 = How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the required settings (required staff number and qualification)
 
So in this picture, top1 is determined by 40 staff at Q6.93, top2 is determined by 22 staff at Q4.17 right?
 

 
This is a bit different to VLLord's definition? Or Am I reading it wrong all along? V said only staff # determines top2, and there is no mention that top2 = required settings:
 
VLLord

Required qualification to manage subdivision includes 3 types of required qualification.
1-st type: (top1) required qualification for current subdivision settings. Depends on employees qualification and their quantity at current subdivision.
2-nd type: (top2) required qualification for number of employees at current subdivision. Depends only on number of employees (current or required? - Ixnad) at current subdivision.

A clarification would be appreciated!Well 
 

9 July 2010, 19:46

Last time edited : 9 July 2010, 19:58

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Ixnad
If I understand you right,
 
TOP1 = How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the current settings (current staff number and qualification)
TOP2 = How much Top Manager qualification needed to manage the required settings (required staff number and qualification)
 
So in this picture, top1 is determined by 40 staff at Q6.93, top2 is determined by 22 staff at Q4.17 right?
ExactlyYes
Top2 - it's only just background information. It was shown to help players during the transition to a new system of qualification
The most helpful it was in office - it was immediately clear which of them are too loaded by subdivisions (in the old system of qualification offices have worked quite differently)
 
Ixnad
This is a bit different to VLLord's definition? Or Am I reading it wrong all along? V said only staff # determines top2, and there is no mention that top2 = required settings:
 
VLLord

Required qualification to manage subdivision includes 3 types of required qualification.
1-st type: (top1) required qualification for current subdivision settings. Depends on employees qualification and their quantity at current subdivision.
2-nd type: (top2) required qualification for number of employees at current subdivision. Depends only on number of employees (current or required? - Ixnad) at current subdivision.
I think VLLord made the wrong conclusions because an update information about future eff. is delayed. Ie his chart for top1 in the case of proper collection of information should look not so:
 
-123
1001,611,611,61
2002,162,162,16
2502,372,372,37
4002,892,892,89
5003,173,173,17
6003,423,423,42
10004,244,244,41
15005,035,035,40
20005,675,676,24
25006,236,236,97
30006,736,737,64
40007,597,598,82
50008,348,349,86

but so:
 
-123
1001,001,181,40
2001,411,671,98
2501,581,872,21
4002,002,372,80
5002,242,653,13
6002,452,903,43
10003,163,744,43
15003,874,585,42
20004,475,296,26
25005,005,927,00
30005,486,487,67
40006,327,488,85
50007,078,379,90
 
 

9 July 2010, 20:20

Last time edited : 9 July 2010, 20:24

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Ix Nelieus
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The Aeynix Group
 
noglues5

ExactlyYes
Top2 - it's only just background information. It was shown to help players during the transition to a new system of qualification
The most helpful it was in office - it was immediately clear which of them are too loaded by subdivisions (in the old system of qualification offices have worked quite differently)

Hmm interesting. Thanks a bunch! Very we!
 
So we can pretty much forget about top2 now and focus on top1 right? Since if you overload your top2, your efficiency will be <100% whether you have required full settings or understaffed settings...
 
noglues5

I think VLLord made the wrong conclusions because an update information about future eff. is delayed. Ie his chart for top1 in the case of proper collection of information should look not so:

Are the red numbers the only data that needs to be fixed?
 
Also I always wanted to ask: Are these kind of data collected by hand or is there an empirical formula for it? (If so I'd love to see the formula ;) 
 

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