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Topic created : 16 February 2010, 15:29

Last time edited : 21 February 2010, 13:03

Argazzmos

Argo

This is repost from Russian forums. All thanks to noglues5 (Wave Company)

All data is gathered empirically ;)

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16 February 2010, 15:46

VLLord

Golden Empire

+1
Moderators, pls attach this topic.

21 February 2010, 13:03

Mike1

Moderator

Mico Inc

great post, thanks a lot!

24 February 2010, 03:00

Last time edited : 5 March 2011, 16:36

noglues5

Wave company

Extended version:

[+] 101-200

Extra info about Top's growth
Well

23 April 2010, 15:52

Honorchamp

HUh?? umm...there is nothing on this post, and it is stickied.

23 April 2010, 18:12

mitsofos

Mitsofos Corporation

Mitsofos International

The post have lost the tables that has attached as images.

3 January 2012, 17:14

Last time edited : 3 January 2012, 17:27

Mike1

Moderator

Mico Inc

According to this post the above table is invalid now unless the qualification growth is "unlocked" regularly by using game points to buy a next level. If a player does not use points to remove this invisible growth penalty, the natural growth speed of qualification is as follows:

20 - appr. 4.5 months (real)
30 - appr. 1 year
40 - appr. 2 years
50 - appr. 4 years
60 - appr. 8 years

Thanks VLLord for this calculation.

6 January 2012, 13:52

Mike1

Moderator

Mico Inc

i received the following by pm, thought i'd share it with my answer:

>> >> >> is it true mike that you get extra growth in qualification if you buy points?
>> >> no but you get a penalty if you do not spend points on qualification. Read the forum!
>> lol i paid for virts and got more production qualification. Result = my growth is now even less!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> what a waste of time and money.
>>

What happened might be exactly what was supposed to happen with the castration of natural qualification growth by this way of implementation. Lets clarify, as i understand it:

- the growth penalty only accumulates for new growth new since november 2011
- natural growth penalty is 5% for each qualification point you achieve by natural growth
- lets assume you were on Level 30, gained 3 qualification levels with natural growth since, means the actual growth penalty is 15% and you are on Level 33 now
- you will only need to buy a single level of the specific qualification to unlock/remove this penalty during the growth to level 35 but as soon as you achieve level 36 you will get another 5% penalty again. For maximum growth you would need to buy level 37 and again remove that penalty.
- the higher the qualification, the slower the growth rate, this hasn't changed. So, buying a qualification level will remove the current penalty but also bring you into a slower growth speed according to above table.
- Why your growth rate is less now? You may not have adjusted Top1 and Top3 as per (increased) requirements; its also possible that your quality produced under that qualification type has just dropped below the realm's average, or the penalty for that has increased more since your last level. If it is the science top manager it could be that you haven't sold sufficient tech recently. if its commerce then your profits may have suddenly dropped. Or, simply, there is an efficiency somewhere below 100%.

You could manually check and compare with the above table on a daily base or use NoGlues browser plugin to see the how many % of effective, possible growth you achieved during the last update. It won't tell you whats wrong, but you can see easily if something is wrong, as described above.

The revised growth algorithm adds the new factor "hidden natural growth penalty", it is not shown anywhere to the user. Unless you keep your own log of when you exactly achieved a next level naturally, and when you purchased a level to unlock the penalty last time, it is currently impossible for you to track this penalty. you may be tempted to or, with lack of time to check everything, just throw some money towards your Top Manager to try if it improves qualification growth. If it doesn't.. your bad, you didn't spend enough time to analyze your situation.

Finally, note that the higher your qualification, the greater the cost to buy qualification, see http://wiki.virtonomics.com/index.php/Principles:Qualification_and_Control ... .
To unlock all your qualifications at Level 60 (required for technology 21 which is just being invented in the realm) will cost you 70 points. Then again, if you are a new player you will have unlocked your qualifications already a few times until then, unless you already waited and played 8 real-years from today.

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